Season 20 Preview!
Kristin Nilsen 0:16
Welcome to the Pop Culture Preservation Society, the podcast for people born in the big wheel generation, whose childhood curfew was when the streetlights came on a clock, we believe our Gen X childhoods gave us unforgettable songs, stories, characters, and images. And if we don't talk about them, they'll disappear like Marshall, Will, and Holly on a routine expedition.
Carolyn Cochrane 0:38
And today, we're giving you a sneak peek at all the fun conversations coming your way in
Michelle Newman 0:44
season 20, probably. I'm Carolyn. I'm Kristen, and I'm Michelle, and we are your pop culture preservationists. Welcome, everyone, to and I can't believe I'm about to say this season 20. I know I can't
Kristin Nilsen 1:03
believe this.
Michelle Newman 1:05
Or as as as Kristen likes to call it, 19 more seasons than I expected when I signed up to this podcast
Kristin Nilsen 1:12
with six episodes. I thought we'd do six episodes total. It's just a small project. But
Michelle Newman 1:17
for real, this is really big. I think. I mean, last year we celebrated five years and over 200 episodes, and we thought that was a big deal. But this is even bigger. Like, this is bigger, I guess, because it's a year later and we're all still here, right? I mean, that's something to celebrate, right? If nothing else, another thing that's kind of cool is that we're hitting 300 episodes right at this time. About now we can't keep track exactly, listeners, because we used to have less than 10 episodes in a season, and then we might have had one or two where we had more. I'm not sure, and then we forgot to number our in between seasons, our in between episodes for a while. They were light episodes. Now they're light episodes. Now they used to be re-releases with all new opening conversations. Yeah, in 20 seasons we have been all over the place.
Kristin Nilsen 2:10
We are on
Michelle Newman 2:11
it, but unapologetically. Unapologetically, I think we
Carolyn Cochrane 2:14
evolve in everything. We have we have yet to jump the shark, so I want that to be on the record. Like that's a really
Kristin Nilsen 2:21
good point, Carolyn. We have gotten better. Yeah, our lists grow longer and longer. Everyone, the question that everybody always has is, what happens when you run out of topics? And we laugh. Never gonna happen.
Michelle Newman 2:34
I know. Well, I'm really proud of us, you guys. I'm proud of this. I'm proud of us because also this is the longest job I've ever had.
Kristin Nilsen 2:43
Oh my God, that's significant! Wow, yeah,
Carolyn Cochrane 2:49
I think I might be right there with you, Michelle. I don't think I've been anywhere. I was anywhere for more than six years. Yeah, wow.
Kristin Nilsen 2:58
I know because we were, you know, when you think about when you start your career and you're a Gen Xer and it's the '90s, you were job hopping a lot. Oh, oh yeah. And then I
Michelle Newman 3:08
and then I I mean I was a teacher, but then I you know had kids and I chose to stay home and for you know a million different reasons that I'm not going to go into. But then I dabbled. I I couldn't just stay home, so I sold creative memories. You know I did those parties. I did Dorothylyn Kindersley books. I did all the like multi-level marketing type things. Writing, I would say, but that really wasn't a job. And I'd like to say because it didn't really pay, but I'm going to tell you what it paid a lot more than this one. Because also, 20 seasons
Kristin Nilsen 3:40
in, when do you think we'll start getting paid? You guys were a nonprofit at this point. We should get nonprofit status. And to all of our Patreon
Michelle Newman 3:48
members, thank you because you pay our bills. So maybe we're not getting rich, but we are not going into debt because of our Patreon members. I will say that. So yes, yeah. Thank you because after the first year, before we started Patreon, we did have to have a big come to Jesus conversation. The three of us about we cannot sustain. We love this project we've started. We love this work that we do. We love the joy it's bringing everybody so much, and we don't want to stop. But we're gonna have to because we didn't realize how many ongoing subscriptions we needed, and bills, and things we needed to do. So we started a Patreon, and you and you know what, you guys, our patrons are basically responsible for 2020 seasons, right? Yeah. Oh yeah, absolutely. We couldn't have done it without them. So thank you. And also, yeah, I mean, here
Kristin Nilsen 4:39
for 20 seasons because of our Patreon supporters. Oh my God, you guys!
Michelle Newman 4:44
But I would like to say that for all of you who have listened to all 19 seasons, you are incredibly faithful, devout, patient. I don't know, crazy, like little Pete. Clearly, our people. So let's get to what this episode's about today. So a few seasons ago, we started releasing these season previews. You guys, was it after our actual episode on the old fall TV preview TV guides and those commercials? Yeah, I didn't get
Carolyn Cochrane 5:39
because that was those to me were so fun, and we talk about that in that episode. I love those, and I think I thought, well, why not give people a little like teaser, like like how we got with the TV shows with our own show, and this came to be
Michelle Newman 5:53
yeah, and we thought it might just be a one off, but you guys loved them, listeners, you loved them, and some of you listening who are very perceptive, shall we say? You may have noticed that we have more than once not quite delivered on an episode. Maybe we've said we'd be bringing you airplane. I just remember in our last season's episode, I was so excited. I was like, I can't believe we're doing airplane, and then, but that's because when we record these preview episodes, we have a list of intended topics that we're excited about, right? But we have not started recording yet, and things happen. Things happen like moves and book releases and weddings and trips and menopause, and menopause breaking. Right, not to mention that once we get recording, we invariably have a conversation that lasts like three hours, and we make that one a two-part episode, meaning we have to bump one because we are nothing if not consistent now. And say we need 10 episodes of this season, we can't possibly have 11. Let me just say this: it's a highly convoluted system we've got going on here, listeners. Plus, no boss, so we can do whatever the hell we want. We
Kristin Nilsen 7:07
just go with the flow. That's right. You never know.
Carolyn Cochrane 7:09
We like to stay timely, so if some big news event happens that we think really affects Gen X, we might hop on that. Or when Rob Lowe calls and asks to speak to Michelle and says, "I'd love to come on your podcast. You know, we have to pivot a little bit, so we do. We
Kristin Nilsen 7:23
bump airplane. We bump airplane for Ramlo. You know,
Michelle Newman 7:26
he's on the the talk show circuit right now doing PR. He has a whole documentary of his life coming out, like in November or something, or October or November. Plus, he's been talking up the Saint Almost Fire. You know, the new movie they're doing and everything.
Kristin Nilsen 7:41
You guys, is this the time to DM Rob Lowe? I'm just saying, you got to try. If anyone out there has
Carolyn Cochrane 7:48
any remote connection with Rob Lowe, we have one kind of friend that does. We we know Melissa, and she's an intimate friend. But I mean, are you
Michelle Newman 8:00
guys forgetting that I have a very, very attractive picture? No one can forget him.
Carolyn Cochrane 8:05
No one can forget, Michelle. It's your Christmas picture. It was on my Christmas card. Listen, I
Michelle Newman 8:10
so I think look no further than right here. I have a connection. Clearly, we had a connection. That's right. Like six years ago.
Carolyn Cochrane 8:17
Stop talking. He remembers
Kristin Nilsen 8:18
you for sure. I bet he'll be like, I'm totally going on that woman's pose. You know what's
Michelle Newman 8:22
funny? I was aside. I was cleaning out my closet, and by cleaning out my closet, don't be impressed. Meaning, I could not fit any more clothes into the one section of my closet. So I was like, something's got to go from the back. And I pulled out some things that either don't fit me anymore. Just I was like, oh, what? Like, where did this come from? But I pulled out the black jumpsuit I wore to Rob Lowe, and I think that was the last time I wore I wore it, and it's it's still cute. I literally, I really do think I could get away with wearing it now. It's very cute, but even if it even if I wasn't like I think that's cute, I might wear it again. There's no he touched that jumpsuit like he put his arm, so it's back in my closet. Yeah, just and
Kristin Nilsen 9:02
you need to put like a pin. You have to pin a note on it that said Rob Lowe jumpsuit, so that after after your demise and your children are cleaning out your closet, they'll be like, "Well, we can't throw this in the garbage. Well, no, it'll
Michelle Newman 9:14
go to the Smithsonian. That's what I think. That's right. I think is that the note. Put
Kristin Nilsen 9:18
the note pin right next
Carolyn Cochrane 9:19
to Archie Bunker's chair or something, right there. Fonzie's
Michelle Newman 9:23
jacket. Yeah. All right. So here we are, everyone. We are at the precipice of season 20, and like you've just heard, we are promising nothing. Anything we're about to say in pencil. This is all in pencil. We reserve the right to. We do. We do. Yeah.
Speaker 1 9:43
So
Kristin Nilsen 9:51
we're kicking off the season with a very timely deep dive because we just lost one of the 20th century's icons, and she was the. Star of one of Jen, she was the star of one of the Gen X era's funniest and most cutting edge and most political movies. That is, of course, the movie Nine to Five, starring Jane Fonda, Lily Tomlin, and Dolly Parton in her debut as a movie actor. And we always had Nine to five on our list. This has been on our list from the very beginning, but now it's being heralded as one of Dolly Parton's most important legacies because it wasn't just an entertaining movie. It was tackling a topic that no one had ever talked about, and that was discrimination against women in the workplace. So you know, how do you? I mean, I just need to say this quickly. When when nine to five came out, sexual harassment was not a term; it didn't even exist. That's how early this movie came out and and alerted all of us, including children, as to what was happening to women in the workplace. So, how do you address something so personal, so pervasive, so political. Because remember, the Equal Rights Amendment was still making its its way through the system, trying to get ratified by the states so that it would become the law of the land. And there were people, like lots of people, Phyllis Schlafly, who fought tooth and nail to make sure that the ERA did not pass. How do you address something like this on film? Well, you make it a comedy. You make it super funny. So now, in 2026, 46 years after the movie premiered, and in the aftermath of Dolly Parton's departure from this world, we get to elevate this slapstick comedy and pick it apart to understand exactly what these three women set out to do with
Carolyn Cochrane 11:47
it. And I
Kristin Nilsen 11:48
have to tell you that adding adding some some witchiness to this topic. After Dolly Parton died, I got a text from my dad, and it was a photograph, like a Kodak instamatic photograph of Dolly Parton with a friend of my dad, like a like a long term childhood lifelong friend of my dad, and he said just reminding you about Janet and Dolly and the long relationship that they had, and something we should probably reach out to Janet and you know express our condolences and I I was husker dude because I had totally forgotten that when I went to see the movie Nine to Five in the theater I can't believe I forgot this you guys when I went to see it in the theater I went with my dad and his sister my cool aunt and we were going to see their besties movie. She was this woman was on the movie. She made the movie Nine to Five with Dolly Parton, and that's where their relationship began. So I have this this connection. I have this connection to this woman who both created Nine to Five and was a bestie of Dolly Parton. So I'm like, Janet, you can be expecting an email from me, and I'm gonna be like, "I'm Gordy's daughter. You've never heard of me, and you don't know me, and you've never met me, but just believe me, I'm Gordy's daughter, and you should come on this podcast. Oh my gosh, gosh, that
Carolyn Cochrane 13:15
would be amazing. Now, this is the same friend who has the Outsiders connection, is that right?
Kristin Nilsen 13:21
Not technically. That's her sister. So this woman who was on Nine to Five, who helped make the movie Nine to Five, and was Dolly's bestie, her sister was the screenwriter for the Outsiders because she was Francis Ford Coppola's protege. Kind of a talented family,
Michelle Newman 13:36
I guess. I would say so. Yeah, and I love how Kristen just doesn't remember. Like these things just come up, and I mean these are primary sources. Yeah, like much like I am with Rob Lowe. Much no, much like I am not with Rob Lowe. But these are primary sources, Kristen, and she's just like, oh yeah. I mean there was also like, who was it that your grandfather was in like a movie, like Shirley Temple or all the people, just all the people. Yes,
Kristin Nilsen 14:02
Shirley Temple and Betty Davis, and I have to tell you that little Kodak instamatic photo of Dolly with Janet, my dad's childhood bestie, is it's at Janet's child's birthday party. So it's like Dolly was at her child's birthday party.
Michelle Newman 14:18
Oh, so then that that's like a true friend because it's not like oh we had drinks when I was in Nashville or something.
Kristin Nilsen 14:24
No, no, this is the real deal. Yeah. Oh
Carolyn Cochrane 14:27
my gosh. Get her on the line. We're going to be seeing if we can
Kristin Nilsen 14:30
talk to Janet. Yeah. See if Gordie has any pull.
Michelle Newman 14:33
I I hope so. Yeah.
Speaker 1 14:34
All
Michelle Newman 14:46
right. Well, our generation had front row seats to some of the most iconic horror movies ever made, and we, I think, have the collective trauma to prove it. But the Monday before. Halloween, we will be sharing an episode that was basically written by all of you listening, because we asked you on social media a few weeks ago what your first scary movie was-the one that might have made you pee your pants, depending on how old you were-and maybe you were 13, and that's okay. Talking, speaking for a friend. Anyway, we've compiled a long list of your answers of all the movies that you remember, and we'll share our own stories and many of yours about how these movies affected you. Many of the titles are obvious, right? We're going to have the Fridays the 13th and the Halloweens, the you know Amityville horrors, whatever. But what I thought was really fun when we were researching and writing this episode was how many of the movies that people shared were not obvious. That was funny, like TV movies especially, and how Whoed I got because I would think that sounds familiar. So I Google it, and when I would see like the images of the people in it, I was like, "Oh my gosh! You know. Yeah. So it's a fun one. It'll or Disney
Kristin Nilsen 16:06
movies. People are like this Disney movie. Totally, maybe my fans.
Michelle Newman 16:10
So that one's coming up. You guys can look forward to that one the Monday before
Carolyn Cochrane 16:15
Halloween. Yeah, that's going to be super fun.
Michelle Newman 16:17
Yeah. Okay, and I'm really excited for this next one. Okay, it's one of my very favorite Brady Bunch episodes. Now, Brady Bunch fans, we've brought you so far in 20 seasons a two-part episode on the Brady Bunch in general. We have deconstructed the Brady's go to Hawaii. Everybody want it. Who wants to do it? And if you listen to that episode, you'll hear us do that a lot. And we've even taken you into the Brady House in Burbank with us. And if you missed that somehow, go to our Instagram page, and it is pinned at one in one of our first three posts because that pin is never going anywhere. It was a momentous occasion, and we'll be back. We'll be back. Maybe this maybe in 2027. We'll be back at the Brady House. Who knows? But now in season 20, we are going to we are going to devote an entire episode to that season four classic that made us all keep on having a sunshine day, and that is the episode titled "Amateur Night. This is where those crazy kids they form the singing group that they call the Silver Platters on a whim. Like I think it's Jan who went. Is it a Jan when they're like, "What's your name? and she's just like, "Um, they don't know. They're all looking at each other. Like I don't know our callouts, and she's like the silver platters, because they need the money for the fancy engraving on Mike and Carol's anniversary gift, which
Kristin Nilsen 17:52
is what a silver silver platter. It's a silver
Michelle Newman 17:54
platter. Yeah, you guys, don't worry. I've already got a seamstress making us all three the blue and white costumes for that recording, I'll send them to you. Don't worry,
Kristin Nilsen 18:02
I have coveted that.
Michelle Newman 18:04
I know
Kristin Nilsen 18:04
for 50 years. Yeah,
Michelle Newman 18:06
sometime at some at some point when the three of us are all together again at some event, even if it's just a PCPS event, we throw it would be great if we all still live together and we go to a Halloween party. But we need to be the silver platters, and we need to carry mics with like a 45 foot
Kristin Nilsen 18:23
cord with the cord trailing behind us as we get all tied up,
Carolyn Cochrane 18:26
yeah, or a curling iron or curling iron
Michelle Newman 18:28
that works too. Yeah, yeah,
Carolyn Cochrane 18:29
yeah.
Kristin Nilsen 18:30
That blue and white sweater and like and like polyester pants outfit. I would wear that out into the world today. Some people would totally get it. Some people would think I'm just brave. I don't know. I I love it. I would feel like my true self. I think I would feel like my authentic self wearing. Wow. Do you?
Michelle Newman 18:48
Well, you know what? I already have a really fun fact about that costume, and I'm not going to share it now. This little teaser. Okay. And I think you're going to be really happy when you hear my fun fact because you're going to realize that having that costume is way more attainable than you might have thought. Oh, oh my God! Okay, that's all I'm gonna say.
Carolyn Cochrane 19:06
Gosh, that's gonna be very exciting.
Kristin Nilsen 19:08
I'm making Halloween plans right now. The
Carolyn Cochrane 19:11
only thing that could make the episode about the silver platters more exciting would be if we could maybe have a little chit chat with one of the OG silver platters, or two of the OG silver platters. Don't even guys, it's in the works. We are pulling all our strings, doing all our things to get Christopher Knight and Barry Williams to come on the Pop Culture Preservation Society podcast and talk to us about the silver platters. You guys, I mean. can we even? No, there are no words. Well, do
Michelle Newman 19:46
you? Oh, wait. I should have also mentioned another Brady Bunch like related episode is when we did our episode on variety shows, and I covered the Brady Bunch variety hour. Oh yeah.
Michelle Newman 19:56
And so in the research in that, do you all remember in that conversation? Christopher Knight was not musically inclined, or he was not a dancer first, right? He was not, so he had a really hard time with those. Not just that episode, but then having to go on, you know, because they went and did shopping malls and stuff like in the off season, and then they did the Variety Hour. And poor Christopher Knight was like, "This is not what I signed up for, and I want to talk to him about that.
Kristin Nilsen 20:23
Yeah, right. Absolutely. How terrifying that must have been.
Carolyn Cochrane 20:27
Okay, so everybody his
Kristin Nilsen 20:28
forte.
Carolyn Cochrane 20:29
Let's all send our good vibes out into the world, and we're going to make that happen. And we can't wait because I hope that I hope that episode doesn't go the way airplane went. So, and don't worry,
Michelle Newman 20:40
listeners. We will do airplane at some Sunday.
Kristin Nilsen 20:43
It'll it's coming. Happen. Yeah, these things never fall off the list. No, they just get bumped. Yeah, that's all. Yeah. So everybody manifest for us, Chris and Barry talking about the silver platters. Keep on, keep on, keep on, keep on manifesting.
Michelle Newman 20:57
We're gonna keep on. Yeah.
Kristin Nilsen 21:21
Okay, our next episode. So that's that would be a follow up episode to the Silver Platters
Carolyn Cochrane 21:25
episode. The
Kristin Nilsen 21:26
next episode that we're going to do. Just think about this. So okay, as Gen Xers, we experienced some micro eras that other generations younger than us have no knowledge of, and one of those is the era of the car stereo CD player, which really only dominated for about 10 years. That was it, and that would be the '90s. We had CDs before and after the '90s, but outside of that era, it was muddied by cassette tapes on one end, and then Napster, and then iPods, and then streaming services on the other end, right? So our next episode will be a celebration of our '90s car stereo CD collections.
Carolyn Cochrane 22:08
So good.
Kristin Nilsen 22:08
We all had them. Everybody had them in the '90s. Most Gen Xers were now driving. Maybe you were driving to school, or maybe you were driving to work. But we were all driving, and we all had some kind of holder, right? Like, yeah, maybe it was a zip-up folio with plastic sleeves or something that strapped onto your visor, or maybe maybe you just lined up the CDs in the console of your car, like the center console of your car. But we all had a small collection of CDs that we drove around with that played on repeat, and if you revisit them now. This is really interesting. If you revisit them now, it will place you in a very specific time and place. The music is of a time. The format is of a time. The place you were driving is of a time. What you were driving in is of a time, and what you are listening to also signifies that stage of life that you were in, and even though Carolyn and Michelle and I are all roughly the same age, we were all in very different stages of life throughout the '90s. So I think this will be both super nostalgic and also kind of funny. I think it's going to be funny to hear what was playing in our car stereos in the '90s.
Michelle Newman 23:19
Yeah,
Kristin Nilsen 23:19
right now I can see I can I can see with my magic ball that all the listeners are trying to dredge up what they were listening to in their Toyota Camrys in the '90s. Right, I'm doing it too
Michelle Newman 23:29
right now.
Kristin Nilsen 23:30
Right, this will all this will all be so interesting because the '90s is so well known for certain kinds of music, two very singular kinds of music. The '90s gave us grunge and alternative and post punk, but it also gave us some very serious dance floor music. And if you weren't going to the club anymore, you maybe you heard those songs at Step Aerobics, and hip hop was exploding. We got gangsta rap and New Jack Swing. None of these things exist in the same way anymore, and we were all driving around listening to it in our cars.
Carolyn Cochrane 24:05
That is going to be such a fun episode. You've just gotten me so excited. Oh, I'm so excited! I mean, I've been biting my tongue because there's things I want to say, and I'm like, save it for the. I know, save it for the car. I know, I know. But look, and I know from the cars we were driving. I mean, that's right. When
Michelle Newman 24:19
you said Toyota Camry. I was like, "How did you know?
Kristin Nilsen 24:22
I know. I had one too. Yeah, I had a Toyota
Michelle Newman 24:25
Tercel at first in the late '80s.
Carolyn Cochrane 24:28
Sexy. Yeah, that'll be so fun. I can't wait to do to do that episode.
Kristin Nilsen 24:43
Okay, so our next episode is inspired by episode 58 of the No Brains, No Light Bulbs podcast, and the episode is called Water, Fire, Peanut Butter: Trivia with a Blue Ribbon State Fair Baker. We'll put this link in our show notes too, so you can listen to it. So, our friend and loyal listener, Jen. Wittis is that blue ribbon state fair baker, and she was a guest on this trivia-based show. So when they invite guests on the show, the guests get to proclaim what topics they feel they are proficient in, and then the hosts create trivia questions for them from this area of giftedness. And Jen told them that her area of expertise was TV theme songs. That's where her intellect goes, and she didn't just have to identify in the game that they provided for her. She didn't just have to identify TV theme songs. She had to identify them by their lyrics alone. This is way harder. Yeah, this takes an easy question to one that you really have to noodle on, and so I will be quizzing Carolyn and Michelle on TV theme song lyrics, almost like a spoken word performance, one line at a time until they get it. I'll give you one line if you can't get it. I'll give you one more line until we get to the chorus. Well, they're probably gonna say the name of the show. I will only provide musical clues as a last resort. That's like phone a friend, and you only get half credit if you need a musical clue. So I think that's going to be fun. Are we playing
Michelle Newman 26:12
against each other in this one? Are we? I've decided
Kristin Nilsen 26:15
this is. I've made an executive decision. We never play against each other. We are always teammates. It's much more fun if you can work together and riff off of each other. Yeah, it's sort of like if you watch a game show on TV and you like on Family Feud and they look back to their family, right? They're up there at the little podium trying to press the button. They look back at their family and their family's like, no, no, no, it's this, it's this. Okay, good. Yeah,
Michelle Newman 26:37
Carolyn gets kind of mean when we play against you. I'm sorry, guys. It is
Kristin Nilsen 26:42
cutting throat. It is that rule
Carolyn Cochrane 26:44
follower in me, and you know. Well, because I was watching your face when she was saying we're always going
Michelle Newman 26:48
to play as teams from now on, and she sort of had this frozen smile on her face, like, "Wait, that's not how we do a game, but that's how my game works.
Carolyn Cochrane 26:56
Yeah, right. So, what's the point of a game if there's not a winner? Also, in the
Michelle Newman 27:01
past, when we have tried to do these games where we're against each other, we're all on because y'all listening know we're all in three different states, right? So we we have always, but even when we were in the same state, we record on not together. We we just learned this is how we taught ourselves. We because it was COVID, blah blah blah. But any so we're always just a split second off from each other, and we know this to be true because anytime the three of us try to sing something at the same time, sounds like we're singing it at the same time to us, but when it comes out of the recording, we're not. And so when you raise your hand real fast or ding a buzzer, what you know, ring a buzzer, it doesn't really work.
Kristin Nilsen 27:36
Somebody's always at a disadvantage.
Michelle Newman 27:38
Yeah, a
Kristin Nilsen 27:38
split second disadvantage. But I thought Carolyn's like that's why I love it because you have such anxiety about like getting the answer right, and I wanted to remove your anxiety. I just want you to have fun.
Carolyn Cochrane 27:49
Thank you, and it will be very fun. It's just one of those things where I'm like, well, what's the point if there's not a winner? Like you know, so it's not really a game, is it? Well, this next episode could be one of my favorites if it happens. So here we go, everybody. Crossing everything, yeah. Yes, all the all the appendages are being crossed right now. As you might know, as I probably shared, I do love to go on a little social media here and there, and just either DM or just come up with a very clever reply to a post that a celebrity might have made, and you guys, I promise you, it has led to some exciting moments. Sean Cassidy, we're looking at you. That was
Kristin Nilsen 28:31
the first one. Yeah, yeah,
Carolyn Cochrane 28:32
and we were just blown away. So, I actually reached out via a comment to Kristen Johnston, you guys, and if you don't know right now, she stars in one of my favorite TV comedies, Leanne. If you have not watched Leanne, yeah, we all. I don't know what you're waiting for because that show-it's just-I feel so seen. First of all, I mean, Leanne and Kristen play sisters, Gen X sisters, who are dealing with all the Gen X stuff. They're dealing with aging parents. They're dealing with menopause. They're dealing with dating in menopause.
Kristin Nilsen 29:12
Who won't fly the coop?
Carolyn Cochrane 29:13
Yeah, all of those things. So it's so just gratifying and almost reassuring to watch it play out with these two because you can kind of laugh. You can take this moment to go, "Oh yeah, I am counting my mom's pills, and so are they. Like that's kind of funny. So some posts that Kristen had, I wait. So tell
Kristin Nilsen 29:33
people where we first met Kristen. Where did we first? Oh well,
Carolyn Cochrane 29:37
so if you well, the first place I met her was on Thurbot from the Sun. Yes, she might. I don't know if she had anything prior to that, but that's when probably most of us and most of our she kind of came onto
Michelle Newman 29:47
all of our radars. I was brought with that show. She was a hugely successful show. John Westgown very
Carolyn Cochrane 29:53
successful, and then she's gone on to be on some other hugely successful shows, and then obviously the latest being Lee. Anne, and also, what I love about it is that she's being, she and Leanne are kind of being themselves. I mean, I don't know that they're actually living this exact scenario that they play out, but they're being just Gen Xers living life. They don't have some weird, you know, I don't know, storyline to it, and so it makes it again kind of reassuring and comforting, I guess, to watch.
Kristin Nilsen 30:24
Slice of life. It's very slice of life. The writing is brilliant. The writing is hilarious, and the parents on the show-they are all of our parents.
Carolyn Cochrane 30:32
Oh, everybody! That is just so good. There is something again. I keep saying this over and over, but when the mom will say a line, and I'm thinking, my mom just said that to me yesterday. Well, you know. So long story short, I might have said something like, "Well, we know 1000s of people who would love to hear you talk about this. And three, three of us have a podcast, whatever. I kind of explained the podcast, and she said, "Okay, and then we've DM'd and kind of going back and forth, so I'm hoping that we will find a date that works for her, and to get her in in and on the pod, and not only talk about Leanne and her career, but also like we like to do, she's our age. So yeah, what was her child? Yeah, what was her
Michelle Newman 31:16
Gen X childhood like? What was she watching? What posters did she have on her wall? She's a '70s kid, yeah,
Carolyn Cochrane 31:22
right. So I feel that will be really, really fun. And crossing our fingers and toes again that that we can get that all to work out, and we'll keep everybody posted. But she's a busy woman, so we're going to try our best to work with her schedule and make it happen. We will,
Kristin Nilsen 31:37
and it'll be fun. Yeah, and so start watching Leanne right now because it'll be even more fun for you to listen to her talk after you've seen the show. I've watched both seasons twice all the way through. Oh wow! It's it's it's become just like a comfort show. Yeah. Well,
Michelle Newman 31:51
yeah. Leanne Murphy is turning. Say it with me. I cannot 60. I'm so sorry. Another episode that we're hoping to do this season. This is another one we've talked about doing forever. Truly, I bet we've mentioned it like five or in five or six other episodes over the past six years. But it will be a top 10 list, maybe eight, maybe five. We don't know. We're we're going to shoot for 10, but no boss. It's going to be a list of the most memorable movies you watched in your classroom. Now, this would be like probably elementary school is what we're shooting for, but somebody might put it. We're going to have no rules. It could have been middle school. We don't care. But these could be educational movies, Disney movies, end of the year movies, old school movies. Anything goes. Could have been a film strip, beep, you know,
Speaker 2 32:42
beep,
Michelle Newman 32:43
and you got to be the one to turn the thing. Oh my god, that was so exciting! Anyway, there's definitely movies we all watched in elementary school in the late '70s, and I think through the '80s. No matter what part of the country you lived in, it's
Kristin Nilsen 32:56
universal, right? Yeah,
Michelle Newman 32:57
yes, that were universal. So everyone, keep an eye on our social media pages in the next couple of weeks for an opportunity to share your movie titles that you're thinking of maybe right now, and any memories you might have. And you might just hear your story on the episode.
Kristin Nilsen 33:14
And I'm so excited to find out what those Universal movies are because I think they're one thing, but I might be wrong. And there are some things that were stalwarts in the classroom, in my classroom, so much so that you saw them every year. You were watching one time. You saw them every year, and then I bring them to the podcast. And Michelle and Carolyn have never heard of them before, and so I need to find out what things are regional, what things are universal. I want to know what Minnesota kids were watching Paddle to the sea, and and what ones I've never seen from other you know are there other regional things that came from people in the south or in the west or whatever. I'm just really really curious.
Michelle Newman 33:50
I'm just actually you guys know what my memory is is pretty much it. So I'm just hoping that when I see people's comments, I'm like oh yeah, oh yeah, because as of this, like if we were recording this one in an hour, I would be like, I can think of Morris Goes to School, the film strip, and that's not it. Yeah,
Kristin Nilsen 34:07
when those comments start rolling in, they would get home screwed up. That's for sure,
Carolyn Cochrane 34:11
great. And I can't wait to talk about also just the experience of watching a movie when we're in elementary school because now, you guys, I don't think this would happen. Like that, the kids would all gather on the floor. You know, you push the desk back room, and maybe you have other classes joining you, and it's a big event. Oh gosh, so much fun! Well, speaking of fun, you guys, give us any chance, and you know what? We're gonna take it. Give us any room. I probably won't break it. Kristen might break it. I just got
Kristin Nilsen 34:44
goosebumps. I just got goosebumps.
Carolyn Cochrane 34:46
You guys, we're finally going to do an episode on Laverne and Shirley. It's their 50th anniversary. Yeah, this one's
Michelle Newman 34:53
definitely happening. Yeah,
Carolyn Cochrane 34:55
yes, this is not going to get
Michelle Newman 34:56
bumped. Yeah, no, we
Carolyn Cochrane 34:57
have changed to do this. Yeah, so we. We are going to finally talk about Laverne DeFazio and Shirley Feeney and Carmine and Lenny and Swiggy and Milk and Pepsi and all the things, and it's going to be extra fun because there is a writer. Her name is Ashley Phipps. She might be the ultimate Laverne and Shirley fan. She actually runs the official Laverne and Shirley fan account, and she has a book that's coming out in October. It is called "The Bells of Bottle Capping: The Legacy of Laverne and Shirley, and it is the first book that is solely devoted to the show. She interviews some of the writers, cast members. The foreword of the book, you guys, is written by Tracy Reiner, and that is Penny Marshall's daughter with Rob Reiner when she was married to Rob Reiner, Emily Hudson, who is Cindy Williams' daughter, and Natalie Lander, who is David Lander's daughter. David Lander was squeaky,
Michelle Newman 35:54
squiggy, yeah. So
Carolyn Cochrane 35:55
it is going to be a really fun conversation with her because she obviously she dives deep, so we're very lucky because we got a little what they call an arc. And for those of you in the industry, you know that might be known as an advanced reader's copy of this book. So we'll have it as a resource as we are preparing, and then we'll have a chance to talk to Ashley and you know just about the book and her why, like why is this her thing? You know, it's always so interesting. We talk about, oh, could we? Will we ever run out of topics? And then you realize there are podcasts out there that are just about like one TV show or you know one singer or one book or something. So Ashley has obviously a book, but her life is about her love of Laverne and Shirley, and kind of keeping that alive. So it'll be a really fun conversation, and I'm sure I'll be singing schlemiels and schlemazels and Haas and Pfeffers. Yeah, and so that'll be fun.
Kristin Nilsen 36:55
12345678, Schlemiels, Schlemazel, Haas and Pfeffer Corporation. We're gonna round out this season with drum roll, please. It's something that we promised you last year in our Christmas episode. We started talking about it just a little bit in our Christmas episode last year, and we're like, I think this deserves an entire episode to itself in December. Get ready for a scene by scene recap of the notorious now cult classic Star Wars Christmas special, which it was this is high quality high quality
Michelle Newman 37:35
at the PCP. Right, right.
Kristin Nilsen 37:37
It was. It has become famous because it was so cringeworthy, and I can't wait! I can't wait. Chewbacca's singing Christmas carols. I mean, come on!
Carolyn Cochrane 37:49
Right up there with the Dance Fever Christmas special. I think yes. In terms of just yeah, cringy, but yet you can't look away.
Michelle Newman 37:56
But it was the sun. I mean, I mean, it was the 80s. It was. I don't know when that one came out. I'm guessing the late '70s. It's got to be '70s. It's so. It's just so our generation. That's what makes it so delicious because our generation
Kristin Nilsen 38:07
is full of so bad it's good. Yeah, so bad it's good. And everybody had to have a special. Everybody had to have a Christmas special, and we lived for those Christmas specials.
Carolyn Cochrane 38:16
Good. I mean, gosh, to get like Paul Lynn dancing with Debbie Boone or something. Just when else is that going to happen, you guys? So and in this case, it
Kristin Nilsen 38:25
would be Debbie Boone dancing with r2 d2. I mean, she bought it. Yes, it does not get any campier than that. It was just full of oh, just trying to sing
Carolyn Cochrane 38:35
Christmas carols. Okay, this do you remember? This has nothing but yet something to do with this. But one of the first viral videos I ever remember that obviously went viral was that woman in the Kohl's parking lot with the Chewbacca mask on. Do you remember what I'm talking about? She was laughing. That was so funny. So that just reminded me of of that yeah video that was so hysterical, and all it was was that woman laughing at herself with a Chewbacca mask on. Who knew? Because Chewy
Kristin Nilsen 39:05
will never not be funny. This is going to be so much fun. We're so looking forward to bringing you all of these episodes. We thank you for listening for 20 seasons, actually for 19 seasons, and sticking with us for the 20th season. We appreciate all of you wish us luck as we as we gather all of this information. This is a very intense time for us, but it's what we live for. We really, really look forward
Carolyn Cochrane 39:29
to
Kristin Nilsen 39:29
seeing each other every day and talking about these things. And we love it when we hear from you. Thank you so much for listening. We will see you next week for the beginning of season 20. In the meantime, everybody, let's raise our glasses for a toast, courtesy of the Cast of Three's Company. Two good times, two happy days, to season 20. Yeah, cheers, everyone. The information, opinions, and comments expressed on the Pop Culture Preservation Society podcast belong solely to Carolyn, the crushologist, and Hello Newman, and our. No way, representative of our employers or affiliates. And though we truly believe we are always right, there is always a first time. The PCPS is written, produced, and recorded in Minneapolis, Minnesota, home of the fictional WJM Studios and our beloved Mary Richards. Nanu nanu, keep on truckin' and may the force be with you.