PCPS Light: Host Recommendations

Speaker 1 0:00

When you crave little pop culture bite, tune on into PCPs light. It's short and sweet, but pack for fun. Gen X memories for everyone, six little sips to keep you keen. So we're back with season 17.

Carolyn Cochrane 0:20

Oh, it's PCPs just sit right back and you'll hear a tale, a tale with helpful tips of books to read and shows to watch and playlists for your trips and playlists for your trips.

Michelle Newman 0:40

By surprise and I had no idea that was coming, because these are unscripted. Oh God, Carolyn, I love you so much for that.

Carolyn Cochrane 0:52

Thank you. I'm sorry for listeners. Please stay on. I know my my singing might have hurt your ears, but please know it was up on us. Beautiful. I love it, yes. So that's exactly what we're going to be doing today, listeners. We are going to share some recommendations with you of the things that we are listening to and watching and reading and all the good stuff.

Michelle Newman 1:11

Basically, we're taking a really fun little recurring feature from our Weekly Reader. We try to do it about once a month, where we share what we're reading, watching and listening to, and we're bringing it to the mics. Yeah?

Kristin Nilsen 1:23

Because, as we know, I think I said this in one of our PCPs lights before people read things and watch things based on two primary things, and that is when their friends tell them. The number one is when their friends tell them to watch it or read it or listen to it. The other is online reviews. So here we're telling you what to watch.

Michelle Newman 1:39

Yeah, I love, love, love getting RECs from people, even if it's like, oh, that's not my taste. Yeah, I follow so many like books to grammars and stuff online, because I love getting or stepping out of my comfort zone. And you know, if someone's really passionate about it, I'm like, maybe I'll try to

Kristin Nilsen 1:55

read that. Okay, I do have a little nugget about Gilligan's Island. So my brother sent me a link about the Gilligan's Island theme, and it turns out that

Carolyn Cochrane 2:07

Jerry Goldsmith wrote it,

Kristin Nilsen 2:11

previous episode composer for aliens and Star Trek and all the movies that American tale. Yeah, not Aaron Neville. Do with Aaron Neville? Nothing at all. No, if you listen to the melody of Gilligan, no, I'm

Michelle Newman 2:29

not gonna, yeah,

Kristin Nilsen 2:30

that melody, take away the rhythm, but take that melody and it's the same melody as let it whip by the Daz band. It's hard, I admit it, it's hard to wrap your brain about around it, but just Google it and you'll see the Daz band, like singing and going, Oh my God.

Carolyn Cochrane 2:50

Isn't that cool, though, that these same notes and everything can just the way they're how long you play them, or whatever, have a totally different sounds like you don't even recognize I'm like, I'm sitting here, going, No, Kristen, I'm just gonna humor you and say, okay, but I don't believe you like

Kristin Nilsen 3:07

if you just go sit right back and then you go, Donna, Nana,

Michelle Newman 3:13

it's sitting back. I think I have to, yeah. I believe hard. If you are a fan of Gilligan's Island, we do for that. It's the one we've mentioned already, but it's where we're talking about the reruns we watched after school and Gilligan's Island came in. I believe, if not, I'm not even going to spoil it, because it's somewhere up in the hot yeah, yeah. We don't

Kristin Nilsen 3:34

have anything with the jazz band, but we really, should we do? We should, yeah. And you know what I just learned, what Daz means, what? Honestly, you guys, how did we not know this? Daz is the combination of disco and jazz. Oh, I just learned that, like two days ago.

Michelle Newman 3:53

The more you know,

Kristin Nilsen 3:55

yep, always. Okay, so that's not the topic of this discussion. No, we're

Michelle Newman 3:58

supposed to be sharing what we're reading right now. Okay, all right, you want me to start Sure? Sure. Okay, so something that I just finished, I'm kind of in the middle of about three or four different books, but a book that I just finished, that I loved is called Finding grace. That's the last book I finished, and 10 out of 10 I highly recommend. It was, it was nice to have a book that I was like, I can't wait to pick that up. And it's, I think I read the whole thing in two days. I loved it. Currently, I'm reading a book that we're gonna do book club on in season 17. And that's, I Know What You Did Last Summer by Lois Duncan from 1973 and I have so much to say about it, but I'm saving it for season 17.

Kristin Nilsen 4:43

Yeah, and I have to follow up on your finding grace. When you read finding grace, just let us know what you think about the end of chapter one. Okay, just that's all I'm gonna say. But here's the other thing about finding grace, I believe that it is the intersection of a book called The late comer by Jean Corliss. Yes, is that the right name? And a Richard Curtis movie, a Richard So Richard Curtis did Four Weddings and a Funeral. He did naughty Hill. He did Love Actually, I think these two things are the intersection of finding grace.

Michelle Newman 5:13

It's a book that I honestly did not know how which way it was going to go, like I kept I couldn't predict, and maybe at the end, you think you do, or you think you didn't, whatever. But there kept being these little twists in it that kept me picking it back up. She thought it was fate. I knew it wasn't. Honor seems to have everything she adores her bright and beautiful daughter, Chloe, and her charming, handsome husband, Tom, even if he works 100 hours a week, yet honors longing for another baby threatens to Eclipse at all until a shocking event changes their lives forever. Years later, Tom makes a decision that ripples through their family's lives in ways he could never have foreseen. As the consequences of that fateful choice unfold, two women's paths become irrevocably intertwined. Those of you listening that you have read it, you know why it's hard to tell someone about this book? That's right? Because there are, there are a couple things. It would be the greatest book club discussion book, because I have so much to say about the different narrators in the book and how that was a surprise, and there's just a lot to say. Let's just say that I haven't talked to one person who has read this book that hasn't loved it.

Carolyn Cochrane 6:26

Yeah, well, I promise I will read it after I finish what I am currently reading. And what's that to share with you guys? It is not a recent publication. It is historical fiction. The title is New York, and it's by Edward Rutherford, and I'm reading it. It's the history, basically, of the city of New York from the 1600s through, well, I don't know how far it goes, because I'm only like in the basically in the 1700s right now. But I love learning about history via a good narrative and a story. So I don't care if a few of the people in the story aren't real, the historical events that are happening are real, and they put things in context. And the reason I chose to read it was because I'm also this is not what I'm sharing in the watching part, but I am also watching the Gilded Age, and so that's obviously a huge part of the history of New York, and this is almost giving the backstory to that story. So you you learn why Wall Street is named Wall Street. I mean, literally, there was New York. Had was a fort. It was, you know, there's like, kind of a fortress there, and that was where the wall was, was on this particular person's name. Nope, it is not a person's name. So you learn interesting things that you just kind of take for granted as to why Broadway is named Broadway, and why you know certain streets are named where they are, and why certain

Kristin Nilsen 7:48

parks are where they are. Historical fiction. You're saying it's not correct, not a non fiction book.

Carolyn Cochrane 7:52

No, it is not. This is a story. So I think basically the story the people and the characters that you follow in the book, much like the Gilded Age, where we have fictional characters, but there are also real people that really live during that time. Are characters in that story too. So it's similar in that way, but it gives a perspective of the beginnings of this city that we all know and love and that we're seeing in kind of a different way in the Gilded Age series. And the book was recommended to me by a friend who reads a lot of books about New York, and she said this was her favorite. So, yeah, so it's the actually, it is. Edward Rutherford,

Kristin Nilsen 8:31

these will all go in our bookshop.org, bookshelf, whatever that thing is called, yeah. And for the people who are afraid of big books, Carolyn, can you tell me how many pages in house.

Carolyn Cochrane 8:41

Well, you know, the good thing, maybe, was that I got it on Kindle, and so, or actually, I didn't get on Kindle. I got it on Libby, so it is through my library. And I love that, because I don't know how big it is, and else it does, because I will be intimidated, and sometimes won't pick up a book because, and I don't really pay attention to the bottom part, you know, where you feel like reading it forever, yeah? And it says you're 3% through the book, and you figure I'm not 73% of the book. But I mean, it's keeping me engaged so far. And I guess I just like thinking it's making me smarter. It's good stuff. Yeah, okay, that

Kristin Nilsen 9:18

sounds good, especially for those people who are watching the Gilded Age, nice to get a little bit of context Exactly, okay, the book that I that I am fawning over this summer, this is my favorite book of the whole summer, except for the one that I'm reading right now, which I'll tell you about too, but the one that has that I'm going to be recommending this to everybody. But with a caveat, is called Vera or faith by Gary steingart. And the caveat is you need to know that I love a book with quirky characters, quirky, quirky, quirky. I love character driven things, and so this book could feel a little weird, which I love. But if you're like this is weird, then you're not going to like this book. It's a. But it's a slim little book, so it will go fast. This book is also told through the perspective of a child. I love an adult novel that is told through the perspective of a child, and what I want to say is that it is, this is not a book about autism. However, this main character whose world we're seeing through her eyes, she does have traits that could be attributed to autism. They just never say that. But she has some stimming things, and she talks a lot about how she's trying to work on reading people's faces. She's trying to work on making friends. She has, like, rules that she has, okay, so when you're gonna make a friend, you have to look at their face, and then when they smile, then you smile back, and it's very heartwarming. It's um, and it's a really funny story too, that it's really cute, it's really intriguing, because there's a little bit of there's a little bit of intrigue in it, and there's a little bit of family drama too. So there's Mom, Dad, there's little brother, there are people at school, and all she wants is to make one friend and figure out where her dad goes at night, where is he going? And so she actually becomes a little spy to figure out where he's going. And these people are so unique and so original. I really loved it.

Michelle Newman 11:10

Great. Yeah, we'll definitely put that in our bookshop.org, those of you who who love to read visit our story, yeah, bookshop.org, and then do you put PCPs in somewhere?

Kristin Nilsen 11:23

I don't know our link, find that link.

Michelle Newman 11:27

Yeah, there's a link somewhere. There's a link somewhere. There's a link in our Lincoln

Kristin Nilsen 11:31

bio and, oh, yeah, link in our link tree.

Michelle Newman 11:35

There's Okay. Well, let's move on to what we're currently watching. And I think before we all share individual shows, one thing that we, all three of us, have watched, I've now watched it completely through twice, is a Netflix sitcom because I wanted my husband to watch it, because you would love this. And he did. He actually too so and I love it. And that is Leanne on Netflix. Leanne Morgan is the comedian who the Netflix series is named after. It's not really based on her life, because she is happily married. And in this show, Leanne is, you know, 50 supposed to be like 5859 to 59 degrees,

Carolyn Cochrane 12:17

59 years old, and her husband.

Michelle Newman 12:22

So it's just, just love the whole cast. Kristen Johnston plays her sister and so she there are a lot of elements in the show that come from her stand up act. So there's lots of menopause jokes, lots of aging jokes, lots of empty nest jokes, lots of how much you love your kids are in there, your grown kids,

Kristin Nilsen 12:41

very southern, very, very and

Michelle Newman 12:45

just daddy. Should they call? She's like, Daddy, mama and daddy, Oh, Daddy. They've got to bathe mama and then Leanne, you know, she's got to take to her bed. I got to take to the bed. I would, I would go to bed at night hearing her voice in my head. So hi, we all, we all highly

Kristin Nilsen 13:05

recommend it, right? You character again, I'm always about the characters. And mama and baby are really, really cute,

Michelle Newman 13:11

and you'll recognize both of them. They've been a million other things, yeah, and they're

Kristin Nilsen 13:14

just droll and innocent and cute. And even her children, you know, it's a multi generational thing, and I think that's really fun for us, because that's where we are. Our children come and go. We're taking care of our parents. She's exactly where we are right now. And there are not a lot of characters, let alone an entire TV show dedicated to a woman of a certain age who has hot flashes, like, there's one scene where she's on a date and she hasn't been on a date in 35 years or something, and she just gets, like, sweat pouring on your upper lip, and she's like, wow, why is this happening to me right now?

Michelle Newman 13:49

And then there's little sweet Mary. You'll recognize her from Glee season one. Oh yeah, Gemma maze, I think is her name

Carolyn Cochrane 13:56

about who her love interest is becoming. Looking hot as shit.

Michelle Newman 14:03

All of you wings fans, I loved the show wings.

Carolyn Cochrane 14:06

I This is Tim Daly. Everybody is Tim Bailey, Tyne Daly's brother, but he is looking so good. Not like he's trying to look young or anything. He's looking just the age he should be. But yeah, mighty fine. And the writing between those two is so good, and their chemistry is so good. I was last night. I was watching the episode, actually, where they meet, and I thought, I wonder if she had to do a bunch of whatever they call those things when you try to see test, yes, screen test. Because I just think their banter and timing and everything is so good. And I think I'm just gonna say this one, like you guys might know what it means. But I told Andy, I said, I think this is the funniest line so far. It might be one of the funniest. And in the whole my whole watch TV, watching he's commenting and kind of complimenting what she's wearing. And I always like to tell people, if I got, like, a. Bargain somewhere. I'm like, Oh, I got this at TJ Maxx. You know, was 100 but I got it for 25 but she says too. She's like, Kohl's cash.

Michelle Newman 15:09

And it looks like

Carolyn Cochrane 15:14

my probably with Kohl's cash. It was just so funny.

Michelle Newman 15:17

Mine was when she's looking at her neck with her sisters, is one of the early episodes. And she's like, it's like a pelican swallowed a mackerel, like our next or so. So it's a Chuck Lorre show, which, if you were a fan of mom or Two and a Half Men, yeah, these. It's very it's very quick and witty like that. And you'll know what's a Chuck Lorre show because of the title the lean. It's just the same Two and a Half Men beginning or whatever, but it's classic, classic. It's throwback sitcoms. So for some people, like for our children, it's gonna feel canned and weird. But for us, you're like, thank God we've got comedy back.

Carolyn Cochrane 15:55

Yes, and it's good comedy. I mean, yeah, to me, at least some of these kind of old school sitcoms that they've tried to have on network TV, or even on, you know, the streaming services, they've just been forced. It's like, yeah, it wasn't that funny, but the laugh track is laughing really hard, and you're thinking, No, I'm not that off

Michelle Newman 16:14

well. And it's been a hot second since I've watched a show like that. So I will say, when I started watching Leanne. I was like, Oh no, like, it feels unfair quickly. It's funny, all right. So other things we're watching. So I, Carolyn, you've already mentioned it. So I I'm now in my second watch of the Gilded Age, because Season Three just ended last week. When you hear this, you guys, it will have ended probably several weeks no spoilers, because I am so obsessed with that show. I love how it's an almost campy drama. I want to tell you our good friend Shane, who's 87 ragged Tiger. We text back and forth about every detail of every episode. He describes it as if dynasty and Downton Abbey had a baby, which I think is such a perfect explanation of this. I'm so into it. I love Bertha Carrie Coon and Agnes, who's Christine, played by Christine Baranski, and ADA played by Cynthia Nixon. But my favorite characters, hands down, are the dresses and the hats. Like that is a character in this show. So are the sets, but the dresses and the hats, I pause, and that's why Shane and I will text about the wigs and the hats and the dresses. And it's so beautiful. And you do learn a lot, especially if you listen to the podcast, the official companion podcast, after one of the hosts of that is also the host of a podcast called The Bowery brothers, which is all New York history. And he comes to the discussion about every episode with actual newspapers from 1892 or whatever. So he's fact checking every single thing that was in the episode. And I would say about 90% of it, if it's not completely accurate. It actually happened. It is based on something that happened. So you know Julian Fellowes at all. They are so brilliant with this show. But I thoroughly, thoroughly enjoyed it. And now that we have to wait a whole nother year, I've started it again, because I love it. And another thing I'm watching, which is from 2020 I watched it in 2020 and loved it, and now it's on Netflix, and it's called love life. And there's two seasons. Season One is the one I love that's with Anna Kendrick, and it basically, they're little, 20 minute episodes, but it takes about a decade of her life. And each episode is called like whatever. The boy the man's name is, she's dating. So it might be called like Luke Deschamps or whatever. And then there's a narrator, you know how? Like, it's always funny, like, if someone will say something, like, I am never going to buy another thing online, and then it'll go, narrator, but of course, she was going to, yeah, we all knew she was going to buy another thing. I love that. So you've got the British narrator who narrates the whole thing. You will love it, and it also is how she grows through each of these relationships. So sometimes she's in college, and sometimes she's back in high school, and then sometimes she's current day, and especially the current day ones, you're gonna love her roommates. And sometimes these love life, these love interests, are intertwined, like, oh, wait, he's he's coming back around. So it's also about how much he learned from these relationships, how much they grow. Season two is the actor from the good place. So it's a whole different you know, series. Season One is amazing. I highly recommend it. You guys will love it. Okay? What is that on? Did you say it's on Netflix right now? I think when it first came out in 2020, I watched it. 20, I watched it on like HBO max or something, but now it just dropped. She's been doing press about it, because even though it's five years old, Netflix just picked it up.

Carolyn Cochrane 19:50

So okay, good. I will add that to my list. I am or I just finished watching. So with the first season is complete, and thank goodness. They renewed it for a second season, because it is great and it is feel good. It's called stick. It is on Apple TV. It stars Owen Wilson and such a cutie. I just love it. I love his character. It's very Ted lasso esque. It's, you know, you're you'll cry, you'll laugh, you'll do all the things, but that's just what I need to be doing right now, and so it fit. It fits that bill wonderfully, the young actor. So it's basically golf themed. And Owen Wilson had been this very successful professional golfer, and then some tragedy happens in his life, and he is not now, let's say, a professional golfer, but he finds this young protege, this guy, this kid who was just this wunderkind, as they like to say, but the boy who plays this part, it's his first big role, its first role it might be, and he had to kind of learn golf to play it. And he is so cute. I mean, obviously he could be like, probably my grandson, but he is a cutie, cutie. And so the the casting is great, and it just, it's just a feel good show. So I summertime, yes, when you need a little pick me up, and when you know that, like, yeah, life can be really hard, but there's, you know, there's some silver linings when you can kind of, sometimes get through this shit. So I'm

Michelle Newman 21:19

glad to know that I have that on my list because I am a huge fan of Judy Greer, yes, so I know she's in it. So I'm glad to hear that you give it

Carolyn Cochrane 21:27

a thumbs. I definitely,

Kristin Nilsen 21:29

I've been, I think, for that same reason. You know, when we need a pick me up, I don't have any new shows that I'm watching right now because I'm rehashing things that I know, that I love, because I need to pick me up. So I'm re watching. Never have I ever which I absolutely love. That's a Mindy Kaling show again, from, is it from 2023 I mean, I think it's 2023 and it's about high schoolers, and it's not made for me, but I love it, and I think the writing is amazing. And I love Paxton hy, the love interest. I have a little crush on Paxton HY. And then I've also gone through the entire season of an old, old show from, I think, like 2016 called Life in Pieces, a classic

Michelle Newman 22:07

love that set, you know what? I want to watch that

Kristin Nilsen 22:10

again. Diane Weast is the is the matriarch of the family, and she's hilarious. She's so, so good, and she should be on TV more. And it's this big family comedy, like the extended family, and they all live in the same neighborhood, and the writing was really, really clever. Colin Hanks, his son is calling

Michelle Newman 22:28

Colin Hank Tom Hanks, says, Sorry, Colin Hanks is this, I love their I love I love that whole cast. And what's funny is I came to that show only about two years ago and binged the whole thing streaming, and it was just such a comfort. And I think you're talking about watching a show again, and me finishing gilded age but loving it and thinking, well, that's what I'm gonna start again, or going back to 30 something, or whatever. We need that right now. We need to we need a certainty. We need a show that we know we loved, even if every nobody else liked it, whatever, but it was a show that we loved brought us comfort. I think that's really key right now. And we do talk about that a lot on this podcast. And a lot of our listeners tell us, what do they watch at night? They watch Mary Tyler Moore, yes, they watch family they watch reruns of family affair, you know The Love Boat. They watch shows that they know are, yeah, just a comfort. I will say, did you guys watch the best show Brian and I have watched together? I would say this past year was the Apple TV show called the studio with Seth

Carolyn Cochrane 23:32

Rogen. That's another good

Michelle Newman 23:35

23 Emmy nominations, I believe, second to like severance only. It is so, so good. And I love that it's a show that each episode kind of stands alone. So highly recommend we it took us about two episodes to get into it, yeah, and then we couldn't stop watching it. And both it's almost every episode is done in a one shot, which means that the cameraman is just running around, following them like they have it. So you also have to understand how hard it is for the cameraman, but how hard it is for the actors, because it's almost like they're doing a 30 minute play. They don't get there's no right? They're not cutting. They're not now, there are some obvious places where they cut it, you know, all of a sudden it's nighttime or whatever. But for the most part, those episodes are done in one shot, which is

Kristin Nilsen 24:19

brilliant. Yeah, I want to add a movie to the list too, because I'm a big not a movie watcher. I don't watch a lot of movies at home, but I do go to movies, and most of the time I'm doing this by myself, because my family doesn't care to go to movies. So anyway, the last movie that I went to see was the new Stephen King movie called The Life of Chuck. And it's hard for those movies to get any attention. That's why I want to bring it up, because all the movies that are being released right now are franchise movies, almost everything. And how do you even find out about the ones that aren't franchise movies? Because we don't have commercials on TV, we don't have it in the newspaper, how do you even find out what movies are out. Out there. So it's possible, when I when I say the life of Chuck, you've never even heard of it, and yet, it's a Stephen King movie. So it's a movie that's based on this novella written by Stephen King. So it's not full on horror, like his other stuff is, you know, sometimes he'll do a Shawshank Redemption or stand by me, he does these little novellas, yeah, get turned into movies. That's what life of Chuck is with a small scary element to it that's not really very scary.

Michelle Newman 25:25

Oh, that sounds intriguing. I kind of want to see that now.

Kristin Nilsen 25:28

That's good. I reckon I think I recommend it

Michelle Newman 25:32

scary, not scary, yeah? Well, yeah, we'll have to all look for that one. So let's wrap up with what we're listening to, shall we? So? I've been transformed by the book. I just listened to you guys. Truly transformed. It's called signs. I thought

Kristin Nilsen 25:51

it was called I just listened to you guys.

Carolyn Cochrane 25:54

I did too. I thought, hold on that. I know Amelia Bedelia was

Unknown Speaker 26:07

That's great.

Michelle Newman 26:10

It's called signs, the secret language of the universe, and it's by a psychic medium named Laura Lynn Jackson. And it's basically a book that teaches us how to recognize and interpret the the messages from loved ones and spirit guides on the other side. And I know this is very woo, woo and whatever, but, you know, I buy, I don't say buy into it. I believe in all the Woo, woo, and I've had just some really tremendous experiences lately with psychic mediums and stuff since y'all know, like losing my mom a year ago, and so this book, though, is what kind of started all this. For me, the message at the core of this book is that you don't have to be a psychic to understand the secret language of the universe. That's what she calls it, the asking for and the receiving of signs is something that's available to us all. In fact, our spirit guides and our teams of light and loved ones who have crossed are sending us signs all the time. You just need to know how to see them. And let me tell you, once I learned what to ask for and what to look for by listening to this book. It's basically just a whole bunch of stories that are unbelievable. You're like, did you make that up? But I believe that she did not. But once I learned what to ask for and what to look for, I started seeing signs from my mom all over the place. I actually apologized to her about a month or so ago, and I was like, Mother, I'm so sorry. I wasn't looking for so long. You must have been sending me these signs for so long, and you must be so relieved now, you know, and the stories I have about the things I've asked for that are so bizarre and specific, and that she sent me, you guys, I'm telling you, it was, it's crazy, and so to say this book has been transformative and wildly comforting for me is to put it mildly, because I now feel like it is a secret language. I do feel like I can talk to my mom now and she's responding, and I will say again, I'm gonna get Woo, woo, but y'all just, you have to that's just, that's who I am now. That's me now. But when I then went and saw psychic medium, my mom said, I Yes, thank you. Like, I didn't tell her any of this, yeah, my mom was like, Oh, my God, yes. Like, basically, Oh, I'm so glad you're seeing the signs finally, and like, wait, what? So it's stuff I've talked to my mom about in private. And then I anyway, the book is called, again, the book is called signs, the secret language of the universe, by Laura Lynn Jackson. I enjoyed listening to it because I kind of did both. I have the physical copy too. She has another one that Carolyn, you're the one that first, you know, told me about Laura Lynn Jackson. It's called the light between us. That's the first one years ago. You told us about that one, and then you and you know what? Her next one is coming out, and it's coming out on 1111, oh, good for her. And that's my mom's birthday. Oh, even better. Oh, my God. So it's coming out this November, so I'll get that one too. So I do have the light between us as well. I just haven't read it or listen to it yet, but I highly recommend it if you if you have lost a loved one, and you've just been wondering, are they trying to send me signs? They are. You need to learn how to look for them, and you need to learn how to ask for specific things.

Kristin Nilsen 29:38

So that's my that's so cool. And I think there are so many people, especially people our age, out there, who have recently lost parents, who miss their parents and and they just want to connect with people. Yeah, whatever, on whatever level is available, we don't know what that is. How do we know

Michelle Newman 29:53

Right, right? Well. And what I also like about this book is it's not it's not like based on religion. So. It's all about it's like quantum physics. That's how the psychic medium that I went to explained it. It's all about our energy. You know, we once were energy, and we're now energy, and it's all about energy. That's why you get a lot of my mother in law is also apparently the lights that flicker in my house, that I change the light bulb and they still flicker. No, that's her, because that energy, especially things like electricity or phones, like if a phone, you know, your phone buzzes and you pick it up and no one's there, this kind of thing.

Kristin Nilsen 30:26

So how about plants? Because I have a rose bush in my backyard that was planted by Walter. Walter is the former owner of this home. Actually, Walter grew up in this house. Walter's dad built this house. He grew up in the house, and then he died in this house, essentially, and he had beautiful rose gardens, and somebody, at one point, tore out all the rose gardens, and the neighbors were super upset about it. But there's one rose bush that keeps coming back. And I have dug up this rose bush, it came back. I hired someone to dig up the rose bush, it comes back. So I'm like, I'm all right, Walter you. It's I you. I got you. You can stay.

Michelle Newman 31:01

But I love that. And that's, but yes, that could very well be. And I love that you talk to talk to Walter more, yeah, and say, like, Walter, you know, I mean, I can't even tell you that, like, it's so bizarre, you guys, when I'm like, I want a specific color of butterfly, and then, you know, two days later, a place I've never seen a butterfly like that before. You know, there was one dead on my sidewalk. And I was like, Mother, don't do this

Kristin Nilsen 31:29

again. I can't do it.

Carolyn Cochrane 31:31

Oh, gosh, yeah, when you were sharing with us, kind of in real time, as you were reading that book or listening to it and getting ready to go to the psychic, and I did a little bit of my own kind of requesting some things from my dad. And all I got to say is, okay, Dad, I see you. I mean, what I got was so in your face, LIKE it couldn't be missed. And so I'm just, I'm grateful that there's some there is some quantum physics, some science. There is a little science behind this. It's not necessarily all woo, woo.

Kristin Nilsen 32:04

So just ask Scott Bakula.

Carolyn Cochrane 32:07

That's right

Kristin Nilsen 32:11

from the show quantum physics. Quantum Leap,

Michelle Newman 32:16

not called Quantum my the psychic I went to told me to watch the movie Interstellar, though you do, yeah, that one, it's like a three hour movie. But she's like, it'll explain it all I was like, All right, really long No, yeah, that's what she said. She goes. She did say that's three hours of your life. You're never back. Though you

Carolyn Cochrane 32:33

knew when your little crafts while you're while you're watching. Well, I'm going to share with you what I've been listening to, actually, two things, but one of them got me to listen to the second one. So I had recently listened to Amy Poehler podcast, good hang, and she had on a guest named zarna Garg. And if you don't know who zarna Garg is, z A R n, a G, A R G, and we'll have all of her links and everything in our show notes and in Weekly Reader, because you have to find this woman, and you have to listen to her. That podcast episode is a great introduction to who she is and what she's about. She's a comedian born in India, and her life story is incredible, is all I'm going to say. It prompted me this episode, to get her book and listen to it on audio, because you guys, she is so funny. And there is just something especially we've talked about this before, about reading or listening to memoirs with the inflection and kind of you almost get a little bit more of the backstory when they're reading it, too. So her book is called this American woman, a one in a billion memoir. It is funny, of course, because she's a comedian. It is sad. I cried on some of my runs as I was listening. I am now going to purchase the hard copy of the book, because there's so many things I want to underline. Oh, I love it so profound and meaningful and all the things and anyway, that's my recommendation. I think you all will be entertained with the podcast episode. She and Amy have this great, oh, it's great. And Amy and Tina are, kind of are, and were instrumental in kind of getting zarna One of the big, oh, that's cool, lifts that she needed. So it's a lot about, you know, women empowerment and helping each other. And you know, could be, well, in this case, comedians empowering other comedians. And it's you're collaborating, you're cooperating, you're uplifting. It's not competition, and how we can all do that for each other. So that's, it's a powerful message. I love the book. I love zarna. My next bucket list guest is zarna Because she learned a lot about American culture when she lived in India through Gen X, like pop culture. You know, she'll say, TV shows, yeah, TV shows and music.

Kristin Nilsen 34:56

So, yeah. So she so you'll have in our show notes, we'll have. Both the link to the podcast where you were introduced to her and the link to her book. Yes. Okay, that's cool. I'm looking Yeah,

Michelle Newman 35:06

and I'll put it in the Weekly Reader this Friday as well. And you know, Carolyn, you've been a champion of her since you learned about her. And I'm so glad I finally, I should say too, that the my favorite podcast right now, besides ours, I'm not favorite, but one that, you know, if you I don't want to like, think about, like, you know, talking to my mom, and you know, spirits, is Amy poehlers. I really like hers a lot, but that's a great episode. And so I'm glad to hear they do talk about, but Amy keeps saying, I read your book and how good it is, and I read it, and I was thinking the whole time I was listening to it. I kind of want to listen to it if she reads it, because I also love her like voice and her accent. So I'm glad to hear you say that you think the listening was very worthwhile. And I'm the same way with you are, and I think you are too. Kristen, we love to listen to memoirs. Autobiography. That's really all I really like to listen

Carolyn Cochrane 35:58

to. Yeah, and one more tip when you do listen and to our listeners, if you listen to her book, listen all the way through. Listen through the acknowledgements. Listen till there's no more sound coming out. The acknowledgements are hysterical. It is so good. It's just as entertaining as the story. So make sure you go all the way till the very end.

Kristin Nilsen 36:21

I always read every if you guys don't read the acknowledgements, start reading the acknowledgements, because some people put a lot of work into them. And you might even see people, you know, you're really wait. That's her brother. I saw him on Broadway in 1972 you know, there's always something that you find it's crazy. It's like prize in the movie.

Michelle Newman 36:39

I like the acknowledgements in books a lot too. And Kristen, we know this about you, and you all that have worldwide crush, or Scott Fenwick diaries read the acknowledgements. They are hilarious too. And two, Carolyn and I are mentioned

Kristin Nilsen 36:56

most importantly, most importantly,

Michelle Newman 36:59

and we'll sign it. Next time you bring it up to Kristen and you want it signed, flip back to the acknowledgements. Carolyn, wouldn't

Kristin Nilsen 37:05

that be funny? You guys, we should totally do that. We're all at the signing table, and you're gonna flip to page, you know, 298 for your index. No, it's just like, like, VI, okay, I have two selections for you, but I'll be quick. The first one, just like you guys, I don't, I don't listen to a lot of fiction. That's not how my brain works, but I do like listening to some nonfiction, if I like the narrator. The narrator of careless people, is a woman from New Zealand, and so her voice is beautiful. Love New Zealand accent. It's it's fantastic. And she is a woman who was a high one of the higher ups at Facebook from its very beginning. And as a lot of you have been following me on social media, and you see that I'm having this existential crisis about my my life and social media, and whether or not I should be there, and is it the most evil thing that has ever been created, and I hate Mark Zuckerberg, and blah, blah, blah. So anyway, she is able to tell you the story of, yes, you should hate Mark Zuckerberg, shaking my head, oh my god, she's it's called careless people. For a reason, these people don't care about you. Just a really quick story to illustrate that there was at one point where Facebook ran afoul of the law in Myanmar, and they were going to throw somebody in jail. Somebody was going to be in jail, and there, and Mark was like, Well, I'm not going to jail, even though it's his company. So I'm like, Dude, you should probably do be the one to go to jail. They're looking for somebody to be the person to go to jail. So they decide. Our Narrator Like, Hey, how about you? You should be the one. Let's put you in jail. And she's like, You guys, I had a baby six weeks ago, and they're and still, they're like, so Well, number one, no. Number two, I'm breastfeeding. I'm not gonna go to jail in Myanmar.

Michelle Newman 38:58

It's okay. So that's just that. That's trash. They are

Kristin Nilsen 39:02

trash. And if you were around for the Sheryl Sandberg lean in era, what was that, 20 years ago, where she talked about how you can have it all and be a mother and be the CEO at Facebook, you just have to lean in. It's bullshit, you guys. Sheryl Sandberg got

Carolyn Cochrane 39:16

bullshit so eye opening. I'm so glad that you have not listen to it too. Thank goodness that that woman had a nice accent and was good to listen to, because what you learn, you want

Michelle Newman 39:28

to vomit. So, Carolyn, you've listened to this, but I have, so I just wrote it down. But here's my thing, I'm so angry about so many other things right now. Is that just going to make me angry, because it's all part of the same. It's, yeah, part of the scene, I listen every day on my walk with my dog, Frankie, I listen while I have to, you know, empty the dishwasher, make the bed, you know, whatever i i Listen. I'm cooking dinner, and so I sometimes I just need something that's a nice escape. Oh yeah. But at the same time, I'm really interested in this story, so I feel like I'm a little bit of. Have to read

Kristin Nilsen 40:00

the whole thing, Michelle, you if you can dip in and out when you know you might not have to do it cover to cover, but you'll get enough of an of the story to understand where you stand on Facebook and whether or not you should be there and participate in it and give Mark Zuckerberg your money, because our eyeballs, even though we're not handing over money to him, our eyeballs and our attention, our money in the bank for him. And if we remove our eyeballs and our attention, he doesn't line his pockets. And you know, as you know, he's doing quite well. He's, he's, he's for himself.

Michelle Newman 40:31

It's the reason we all got rid of Hulu and Disney plus, right?

Carolyn Cochrane 40:36

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Thanks, buddy.

Kristin Nilsen 40:38

Yeah. Mike is like, slowly backing down the stairs. The other thing I want to tell you about quickly is, as I said, I don't listen to fiction really. However, Daisy Jones in the six I did listen to for a very important reason. I know this is a book that came out a long time ago, and the show came out a long time ago, but I'm reviving it for the people who don't listen to audio books, because it has an all star cast, and it is in an interview format, so it's all dialog, and the cast is Jennifer Beals, Benjamin Bratt, Judy Greer. It's an all star generation. Yes, it is. These are our people. Daisy Jones, in the sixth. This is a story that is, that is supposed to be. It's a fictionalized story of Fleetwood Mac, essentially. So then the place that that sent me was to listen to the music that was created for the show, the limited series of Daisy Jones in the sixth. There's actually a soundtrack there goes with that series. Great. Oh, you guys, it's so good. Even though it came out a long time ago, I am still listening to it. And that doesn't happen very often. Music comes and goes really fast, if you were this is essentially like listening to a current day Fleetwood Mac. And if I it fills the bill for every moment of my day. It's almost like I just can't let go of it. It's so, so good. It's, it's Stevie Nicks and and Lindsay Buckingham is what you can hear in these songs that are new.

Michelle Newman 42:10

Yeah, it's really good. I'm going to I read that so long ago, and I loved the series does Riley. I can never say her last name, right? But she's not right, I know. Does she? Does she sing those songs? Oh yes, yeah, because in the show she did. So I was just wondering if that was made,

Kristin Nilsen 42:26

but Elvis's granddaughter is singing on this she, and she's fantastic well,

Michelle Newman 42:31

and if you do need another good listen, I'm gonna forget what it's called now, but you have to listen to the book that she picked her mother's Lisa Marie Presley. And you have to listen to that, because Lisa Marie had written most of it, and then, when she died suddenly, Riley took the manuscript and she finished it for her. Lisa Marie had said, Riley keel, yeah, she finished it. So Julia Roberts reads the part of Lisa Marie, but you get a lot of audio tapes. So Lisa Marie had told stories on audio tape hundreds of hours, and she plays those in the audio book. So I, I listened to that in like three days time, and it was right after I lost my mom and the first 10 pages just if I fell to my knees. It was just because remember what the title of that one is. I can't either, but just just grow Lisa Leslie's book, yeah, autobiography, highly recommend it, yeah. Listen though to it, yeah,

Kristin Nilsen 43:30

yeah. That sounds like one two by far. Forego the print and go straight to audio. I think so, yeah, this is really great. You guys were, we're, we're firing on all cylinders here. Thank you so much for listening, everybody. This is our last, I was gonna say issue. This is our last issue of PCPs light. And next week we're gonna kick off season 17. Are we saying? What are we gonna say? What the episode is? Are we saying? I mean, let's just wait. Okay, it'll be a surprise. We might change our mind. So I'm not gonna tell you, but it's a good one, no matter. Good

Carolyn Cochrane 44:06

one. November, welcome. Thank

Kristin Nilsen 44:07

you for listening. Everybody. In the meantime, let's raise our glasses for a toast, courtesy of the cast of Three's Company, two good times, two

Michelle Newman 44:15

Happy Days

Carolyn Cochrane 44:16

to Little House on the Prairie. Cheers. Bye, bye,

Kristin Nilsen 44:19

everybody. The information, opinions and comments expressed on the pop culture Preservation Society podcast belongs solely to Carolyn the crushologist and hello Newman, and are in no way representative of our employers or affiliates. And though we truly believe we're always right, there's always a first time the PCPs is written, produced and recorded in Minneapolis, Minnesota, home of the fictional wjm studios and our beloved Mary Richards, Nano, Nano, keep on trucking and May the Force Be With You. You.

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